{"id":12130,"date":"2019-05-19T08:15:34","date_gmt":"2019-05-19T15:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/?p=12130"},"modified":"2019-05-19T08:15:34","modified_gmt":"2019-05-19T15:15:34","slug":"lilium-elevates-five-passenger-uber-ready-vehicle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/lilium-elevates-five-passenger-uber-ready-vehicle\/","title":{"rendered":"Lilium Elevates Five-Passenger Uber-Ready Vehicle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/anewdomain.net\/uber-elevate-a-closer-look-ubers-new-flying-car-vision\/\">Uber Elevate,<\/a> headed toward its third annual meeting in Washington, D. C., has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uber.com\/us\/en\/elevate\/\">established guidelines<\/a> for what it wants to see flying in its service.\u00a0 Lilium, a German electric Vertical Takeoff and Landing maker, has flown a vehicle that seems to meet those guidelines.<\/p>\n<p>The web site, <em>A New Domain.net<\/em>, notes, \u201cThe authors of the Uber paper point out that the high-profile German concept, the\u00a0Lilium, is a \u2018push to extremely high levels of distribution while coupling the vertical lift in closely with the wing high-lift system.\u2019 The concern here, however, is that such\u00a0jet-lift approaches \u201cwill require substantially higher power for takeoff and landing, with greater challenges operating quietly within cities,\u201d according to the Uber paper.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFrom the looks of it, Lilium still looks awfully cool. Due in 2018, Lilium is an egg-shaped plane and oft noted as a key development by European Space Agency (ESA) reps. Capable of a top speed of 250mph and a range of 300 miles, it is said to require just a 50\u00d750 foot place to take off.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Lilium Jet 5-seater technology demonstrator\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8qotuu8JjQM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.electric-flight.eu\/\"><em>Electric Flight.eu<\/em>,<\/a> a great resource for new entries into the electric flight realm, reports, \u201cLilium celebrated another maiden flight. This time, however, with a really 1: 1 pattern of the five-seat Lilium Jet in front of its own employees. \u00a0Still rather uncertain, like a flying stork, because of still seemingly unbalanced flight control, the construction took off at the airport Oberpfaffenhofen near Munich, where the enterprise is now also settled with approximately 300 coworkers. The one-and-a-half-tonne prototype, powered by 36 electric motors, started vertically, remained hovering and again landed vertically. The Chinese IT company Tencent and other investors had already given Lilium almost 90 million euros.\u201d<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Uber Black in the Black?<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Lilium\u2019s latest might provide Uber with the revenue carrying size it needs to be profitable, if operating costs can be held within tolerable limits.\u00a0 Uber keeps promising that its aerial service will cost riders no more than its ground-bound Black service.<\/p>\n<h4>How Much Does Uber Typically Cost?<\/h4>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><strong>Initial Fee<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Price Per Mile<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Price Per Minute<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Service Cost<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>uberX<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$0.40<\/td>\n<td>$0.97<\/td>\n<td>$0.14<\/td>\n<td>$1.58<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>uberXL<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$2.15<\/td>\n<td>$1.68<\/td>\n<td>$0.26<\/td>\n<td>$1.70<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>UberSELECT<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$4.02<\/td>\n<td>$2.17<\/td>\n<td>$0.33<\/td>\n<td>$1.70<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>UberBLACK<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$7.22<\/td>\n<td>$3.33<\/td>\n<td>$0.44<\/td>\n<td>$1.80<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>UberSUV<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$14<\/td>\n<td>$4<\/td>\n<td>$0.49<\/td>\n<td>$0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>LUX<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>$15.65<\/td>\n<td>$4.35<\/td>\n<td>$0.52<\/td>\n<td>$1.80<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Uber explains, \u201cYou can expect to pay anywhere from $5 on up. Charges may increase if there&#8217;s a surge in rider demand since the\u00a0<strong>rates are dynamic<\/strong>. While each ride is limited to a distance of 100 miles (160 km), always keep an eye on the upfront fare as it won&#8217;t always be the same. The average costs for each main car service are shown above.\u201d\u00a0 We can hope that the aerial fees will be less obfuscatory than this explanation.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Time or Money, or Both?<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Looking at travel times on Google Maps, we can see the relative times going from San Francisco to San Jose consume.\u00a0 Cars can zip along the 51 miles in about an hour on a relatively clear 101 highway.\u00a0 During gridlock early in the morning or late in the day, that can go up to over two hours.\u00a0 At its 168 mph cruising speed, a Lilium EV could turn that into a 20-minute trip.\u00a0 It would be preferable to take the rate per minute under that scenario, if Uber would permit (doubtful).\u00a0 That would make the quick ride about $35.\u00a0 The per-mile rate would raise that to $178.85, a potentially tough sell for even the well-heeled.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_13866\" style=\"width: 538px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sustainableskies.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Lilium_Header_About_Founders.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13866\" class=\"size-large wp-image-13866\" src=\"http:\/\/sustainableskies.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Lilium_Header_About_Founders-528x237.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"237\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-13866\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lilium founders: (left to right) Daniel Wiegand, Sebastian Born, Patrick Nathen, Matthias Meiner<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.caltrain.com\/fares.html\">One can take CalTran<\/a> between the two cities for $9.95 one way, or $21.00 for a day pass.\u00a0 Depending on day or weekend schedules, the trip between San Francisco and San Jose will take around one hour and 20 minutes.\u00a0 So, time and money can be deciding factors, although a quick aerial jaunt would have enough excitement to cause some to make that choice.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Building a New Infrastructure<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Uber had an architectural competition for Skyports that would support the rapid dispatch and retrieval of Uber Elevate vehicles.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.designboom.com\/architecture\/uber-air-flying-car-skyport-concepts-elevate-05-10-2018\/\">John Badalamenti, uber\u2019s head of design<\/a> for advanced programs and aviation, said<strong>\u00a0\u201c<\/strong><em>while uberair might feel like a far away dream, it\u2019s closer than you think and urban infrastructure has to start to evolve now to keep up.<\/em><strong>\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0 Such visions need solid ground underneath, and sites need to be located and purchased at the earliest possible date, since land prices will only increase in the future.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Uber Sky Tower Vision _ Pickard Chilton + Arup\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/skE96oBZVdA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pickardchilton.com\/work\/uber-sky-tower\">Note the need for connections to freeways, highways, bus routes and rail connections.<\/a>\u00a0 Somehow, all those Elevate passengers have to have easy access to the Skyports to make the aerial trips worth the possible premium prices, and then achieve ground times that will support the short flight times.<\/p>\n<p>As with electric aircraft and eVTOLs, the vehicles themselves, their motors, controllers, and control systems all seem well proven and reliable at this point.\u00a0 Batteries still need work.\u00a0 The biggest impediment to future success may be in the ground support systems required to maintain the goals achieved in flight.<\/p>\n<div id=\"facebook_like\"><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fcafe.foundation%2Fblog%2Flilium-elevates-five-passenger-uber-ready-vehicle%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=500&amp;action=like&amp;font=segoe+ui&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;height=80\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden; width:500px; height:80px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Uber Elevate, headed toward its third annual meeting in Washington, D. 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