{"id":9520,"date":"2014-12-11T08:12:04","date_gmt":"2014-12-11T15:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/?p=9520"},"modified":"2014-12-11T08:12:04","modified_gmt":"2014-12-11T15:12:04","slug":"will-vw-take-tesla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/will-vw-take-tesla\/","title":{"rendered":"Will VW Take on Tesla?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">Volkswagen just bought a five-percent stake in a startup company called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quantumscape.com\/index.php\">QuantumScape,<\/a> a commercial spinoff of work done at <a href=\"http:\/\/npl-web.stanford.edu\/archive\/all-electron-battery\/\">Stanford University\u2019s Nanoscale Prototyping Laboratory <\/a>for Energy Conversion and Storage.\u00a0 The Labroratory\u2019s head, Fritz B. Prinz, Finmeccanica Professor of Engineering and Robert Bosch Chairman of Mechanical Engineering, explains: \u201cOur team creates, models, and prototypes nanoscale structures to understand the physics of electrical energy conversion and storage. We are exploring the relation between size, composition, and the kinetics of charge transfer. We are also interested in learning from nature, in particular by studying the electron transport chain in plant cells.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>(Note that the QuantumScape web site is curiously without detail, showing only four pretty pictures and making three or four non-controversial statements. \u00a0The most information comes on the Contact link.)<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_9521\" style=\"width: 538px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9521\" class=\"size-large wp-image-9521\" alt=\"Stanford Labs' team of researchers\" src=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-photo-528x395.jpg\" width=\"528\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-photo-528x395.jpg 528w, http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-photo-300x224.jpg 300w, http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-photo.jpg 623w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-9521\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stanford Labs&#8217; team of researchers<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Whatever they are doing, the Lab has caught the interest of not only Volkswagen\u2019s CEO Martin Winterkorn, but produced a flood of often speculative articles from <em>Bloomberg, EV World<\/em> and other sources, an indication that people in the know seem to think something\u2019s coming.\u00a0 That something may be what QuantumScape calls, \u201cA fundamental disruption in the field of energy storage.\u201d\u00a0 This type of provocative statement is a hallmark of Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla, and hearing similar ideas from other sources might be a prelude to a more serious contest.<\/p>\n<p>This disruptive element may refer to the \u201cAll-Electron Battery\u201d developed by the Lab.\u00a0 The Lab\u2019s description of the battery is also provocative, and despite its scholarly tone makes pretty impressive claims.\u00a0 \u201cThe All-Electron Battery stores energy by moving electrons, rather than ions, and uses electron\/hole redox instead of capacitive polarization of a double-layer. This technology uses a novel architecture that has potential for very high energy density because it decouples the two functions of capacitors: charge separation and breakdown strength. If successful, this project will develop a completely new paradigm in energy storage for electrified vehicles that could revolutionize the electric vehicle industry and establish U.S. leadership in advanced energy storage technology for electric vehicles.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_9522\" style=\"width: 538px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-battery-chart.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9522\" class=\"size-large wp-image-9522\" alt=\"The promise of the green arrow to the right shows why VW would be enthusiastic about this development\" src=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-battery-chart-528x404.jpg\" width=\"528\" height=\"404\" srcset=\"http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-battery-chart-528x404.jpg 528w, http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-battery-chart-300x230.jpg 300w, http:\/\/cafe.foundation\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/all-electron-battery-chart.jpg 660w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-9522\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The promise of the green arrow to the right shows why VW would be enthusiastic about this development, with both Watt-hours per kilogram and Watt-hours per liter topping anything currently available<\/p><\/div>\n<p>VW would be a formidable competitor for Tesla, spending over $13 billion a year on research and development to Tesla\u2019s $250 million through the first nine months of 2014.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ecomento.com\/2014\/12\/10\/volkswagen-investing-in-new-battery-technology\/\"><i>Ecomento.com<\/i> reports<\/a> VW\u2019s Wintercorn as telling a Stanford audience in November, \u201cI see great potential in this new technology, possibly boosting the range to as much as 700 kilometers (430 miles).\u201d He went on to say.\u00a0\u201cElectro-chemistry is a field of the greatest importance internationally and across industries\u2026..[and is]\u2026..a field where we can and must achieve progress.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.greencarcongress.com\/2014\/12\/20141209-qs.html\">Green Car Congress<\/a><\/em> breaks the history and technology down a bit more.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn 2010 (also the year QuantumScape was founded), ARPA-E awarded Stanford, with Honda and Applied Materials as project partners, $1,498,681 for a two-year project to further the AEB.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn patents awarded to Stanford, the Stanford researchers explained that the improved energy storage is provided by exploiting two physical effects in combination.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/patents\/US8524398?dq=all+electron+battery&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=3SeGVKrjHoHpoASm14BI&amp;sqi=2&amp;pjf=1&amp;ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA\">One patent describes the all-electron battery<\/a> as a capacitor with embedded inclusions in the dielectric structure between two electrodes.\u00a0 \u201cElectrons can tunnel through the dielectric between the electrodes and the inclusions, thereby increasing the charge storage density relative to a conventional capacitor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>By carefully nano-structuring one or both electrodes, the researchers found ways \u201cto provide an enhanced interface area relative to the electrode geometrical area.\u201d\u00a0 Such \u201carea enhancement\u201d can also reduce the self-discharge rate of the battery.<\/p>\n<p>The patent explains that \u201ccharge and discharge rates and storage capacities of the devices can be selected by appropriate geometrical design and material choice.\u201d\u00a0 Changing internal geometry allows a wide variety of battery characteristics.<\/p>\n<p><em>Green Car Congress<\/em> takes a tentative approach to potential developments.\u00a0 \u201cIf Volkswagen has invested in QuantumScape (and if QuantumScape is basing its technology on the Stanford AEB), then we may see relatively soon what types of design and optimization decisions the startup has made on top of the basic technology with an eye toward vehicle applications.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In any case, VW and Audi have set goals of leading in battery-powered and other alternative energy vehicles.\u00a0 The company\u2019s size and willingness to spend on R&amp;D could lead to some exciting developments.<\/p>\n<div id=\"facebook_like\"><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fcafe.foundation%2Fblog%2Fwill-vw-take-tesla%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=500&amp;action=like&amp;font=segoe+ui&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;height=80\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; 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